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November 24, 2007

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A law student

Apparently, you conveniently overlooked United States v. Burns, 2001 SCC 7, [2001] 1 S.C.R. 283, which overruled Kindler and Miller.

You don't even need to wander into a law library to find this information out. A quick Google search will do!

Dr.Dawg

"A law student." Bob, I feel for you. Crow tastes awful, and believe me, I know that from experience. : )

Bob Tarantino

Dawg: Sometimes you get schooled, sometimes you get pwned - I'm still in the process of trying to figure out which catgeory this falls into... ;o)

DCardno

It would have been interesting to listen in on the discussion (or internal monologue) that lead to the terminology "engages the underlying values of the prohibition..." - it is the sort of deliberately vague statement that comes out of a compromise, where each side hopes to read their own interpretation into it. There is so little real meaning (death penalty and C&U involve the same sorts of value judgements and trade-offs - this is news?), and so much implied meaning that it can be read either way, and claimed simultaneously as a victory no matter which side of the debate you are on:
> In order to "engage the values that prohibit C&U," CP must be C&U in and of itself (or be 'close enough' that the difference is meaningless) - hence it fails the Charter;
> Although CP "engages the values that prohibit C&U" it must obviously fall short, or the Court would not have introduced the "whether or not" caveats regarding demonstrable justification under § 1 and violation of § 12...

A Law Student

Sorry, I was a little cruel. To be fair, it seems like the case was decided hinged on a s.7 analysis. Oh the wisdom of substantive due process!

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